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Covington And Pierce

I think it’s best to transfer this thread out of the Radio Free Northwest commentary, if it’s going to be a thread. Yes, there was a time in the early 1980s when there were some discussions about myself and Pierce teaming up. This was before he mysteriously acquired the $300,000 from–uh–well, wherever he got it–and before the West Virginia compound. I was just out of my NSPA period and Pierce was still in the northern Virginia area at the time. I won’t discuss details except that he wanted me for some specific tasks and the deal fell through for reasons having as much to do with me as with him. Yeah, it’s an interesting bit of historical “what might have been,” but that’s all it is.

30 Comments


  1. Ex-NA (re-post)
    Dec 23, 2014

    I suppose you are aware that the last tattered remains of Pierce’s National Alliance are now making fools of themselves, fighting over the West Virginia compound in the courts like alley cats over a dead fish? It is excruciating and embarrassing. Harold Covington should have gone NA back in the 80s and taken over when Dr. Pierce died.


  2. James K. (re-post)
    Dec 23, 2014

    Now, there’s a “what if?” for historians! What if Pierce hadn’t been such a paranoid ass and had taken HAC up on his offer back in 1981? What if Pierce hadn’t spent a good part of the 1990s attempting to undermine Covington through surrogates and destroy his reputation through organized cyber-stalking? Suppose these two great White men could have found a way to work TOGETHER?

    Wow.

  3. You’re probably lucky you didn’t get involved with the NA prior to the Bob Mathews incident, Harold, or else you would have been caught up in all the Order drama. You told me once you wouldn’t take $300,000 if you knew it was stolen, for practical reasons of legal exposure. If you had been around to persuade Pierce otherwise the West Virginia compound would never have been bought, and of course the last remaining capital the organization has left wouldn’t be getting pissed away on lawyers.


  4. Andy Donner
    Dec 24, 2014

    This conversation hasn’t hit one very important realization, though. Perpetuating the NA would have been bad for our race even if none of the GUBU ever happened. Pierce’s ultimate plan was to put propaganda in the hands of top military and elected officials and hope they’re willing to do what needed to be done.

    He was almost fifty years late with that idea. I have supreme respect for his oratory capabilities, but his speaking (and other words) are all the NA ever had. Let it tear itself apart so some of us will finally make the decision to get on with what needs doing.


  5. August Gross
    Dec 24, 2014

    Pierce should have been grooming a successor for years before he died. I understand he hadn’t seen a doctor in a long time either, from a European source.
    The world is too different today to run an up front thing as the NA was in the 80’s and 90’s. It would be another Waco. They would drop in helicopters on whatever pretext.


  6. Anonymous (re-post)
    Dec 24, 2014

    I am an NA vet from the 90s and I regret to say I drank the anti-Covington Kool-Aid that was being peddled out of Hillsboro at the time. I wish now I hadn’t. I was always puzzled by the contradiction of, if this Covington character was such an insignificant little insect, then why was so much time being spent on attacking and discrediting him and smearing his reputation? Including the infamous “cyber unit” that stalked Harold for about 18 months on Usenet.


  7. Lewis Hall
    Dec 25, 2014

    I remember when that “discussion topic” came up yet again, Harold. You were in Raleigh and it was before your first trip to Seattle, so that would put it in the early Nineties You may recall I recommended it, but it was blocked by “the Clique” in Hillsboro. So much for racial solidarity and White unity, like they keep claiming you violate all the time.


  8. Former Hillsboro Denizen
    Dec 26, 2014

    I remember that shower of shit in the 1990s up there. I always got the impression that great effort was being expended by “certain” staffers to alienate and separate Dr. Pierce from the one man who could conceivably have succeeded him and kept his legacy going, kept the NA functioning as an actual organization. Probably they because they knew if Covington ever came in, they were going out on their asses and they’d be cut off from the Hillsboro financial teat. I remember that the hatred for HAC up there at that time reached the level IMHO of pathological, clinical insanity, as witness the “cyber-cell” debacle of 1997-98.

    Ah, well, it wasn’t to be. The Northwest got HAC and we got Chairman Gliebe. Oh, yeah. Good times, baby.


  9. Not libertarian
    Dec 26, 2014

    NA once had a great bookstore, including many great children’s books. Also Pierce/NA had excellent propaganda like “who rules America” documenting Jewish control of the US media.

    NWFront should have something similar now. – maybe a virtual bookstore.


  10. Harold
    Dec 26, 2014

    @Not Libertarian

    That’s on the cards, now that I have resolved a certain legal situation, which you would know about if you hadn’t been so snarky and troll-esque that I can’t be sure I can entrust you with confidential information.

    We also have a very good basic literature line, copies of which I sent you many years ago. No one seems to pay any attention to it, or else they just drop it in the cardboard box in the closet where they keep their racist stuff. If this series of six legal-sized leaflets would ever be actually DISTRIBUTED among MUGGLES (i.e. non-racial “normal” White people) they would probably be quite effective.


  11. Anonymous
    Dec 26, 2014

    Thanks for explaining this Mr. Covington. Yes, I am familiar with the reading list – most on this list is excellent. Still, some works are very dated as Communism has fallen in Central and Eastern Europe.

    Russia and most of Eastern European countries looks rather good (FEMEN cultural Marxists get beaten with whips by Cossacks, then sentenced to forced labor camps in Siberia!) Russian foreign policy in Middle East is what AmericaFirst patriots have always supported.

    The Cold War with Russia should have been over no later than 1972.

    The remaining White West’s clashes with nasty third world, Non White Muslims are real and as I recall, the reading list only had one book about the White West’s brutal fights with Islam “Dark Angel”, about the final days of White civilization in Constantinople.

    There is lots of great literature about Whites fighting the nastiests sons of Alllah.

    “Battle of the Casbah” – by the French General directing counter terrorism in French Algeria.

    Keep the faith for our folk.


  12. Another Ex-NA
    Dec 30, 2014

    I was in Hillsboro during the 90s as well. It struck me at the time that there was a deliberate attempt being made on the part of three specific staffers [names redacted – HAC] to create alienation and antagonism between Dr. Pierce and the one man who could conceivably have taken over from him and maintained and expanded his legacy once he was gone. This was noticed at the time and several attempts were made to get Dr. Pierce to rectify the situation, but for a long time he simply refused to discuss it. Eventually he dealt with it when it became obvious that these men’s obsession with Covington had passed all bounds of rationality and was causing harm to the NA and its public image, but by then the damage was done. I would like to apologize to Harold Covington for what happened back then, for what that may be worth. It is truly one of history’s most tragic “might-have-beens.”


  13. Anonymouus
    Dec 30, 2014

    I found the anti-Covington internet and smear campaign of the 1990s in the NA to be embarrassing, pointless, and mystifying. At one point I was able to get through to Dr. Pierce and explained to him that I could no longer in conscience allow my dues and donation money to be used for such a purpose. His reply was strange: he was very apologetic but he said it was “out of his hands,” and then he simply hung up on me.


  14. Steve the Elder
    Dec 31, 2014

    Two things: The white race has many flaws, but one of our worst is internecine conflict. Too many chiefs and not enough indians. Witness the history of Scotland. Some of the most amazing warrior DNA out there, but constant infighting gave the English the advantage and now Scotland is a whipped puppy

    Two: A ship does not sail on yesterday’s wind


  15. Chicago Guy's Cyber-Stalker
    Dec 31, 2014

    [Chicago Guy: He’s back, posting under your real name. I’d forward the information to you but you won’t let me have a valid e-mail address. (Sigh.) Really gallant band of daring revolutionaries we have here, eh? – HAC]


  16. Anonymous
    Dec 31, 2014

    This is “Chicago guy” , yes I have cyber stalkers and worse the $100 million endowed SPLC harassing me a bit.

    I ‘m holding up OK, not bad, putting out the spin that it’s persecution of any Christian who dared publicly to support traditional marriage initiatives.

    I am getting more and more off the Internet. You have my Chicago PO box which I received one NW Observer.

    I am concentrating on my business which is doing OK providing good wages for a few White workers. I travel a fair amount and do productive activism in places I’ve lived and where I am known and accepted as a local guy Middle Tennessee, New York City, San Diego CA and some stuff in Chicago – though Chicago is brutal.

    Take care and keep the faith – your radio shows are excellent, think you might consider trying to become a local teacher, tutor in the Homeland.

    14 words


  17. TN_Bushwacker
    Jan 01, 2015

    It’s a sad but very real sort of horror story to which MANY just cannot or refuse to understand. Instead of honestly coming to terms with reality, and moving on. Many wish to cling to the past with the zeal of an autistic child. Dr Pierce was truly a genius and a gift to us, you’ve honored him many times HAC. Rightly so, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together would come to the same conclusion. Maybe we should publish the Aryan history series? Or, perhaps my misanthropy isn’t so off and most people are just too damned stupid for their own good. Either way, I wish and hope all in NF and otherwise the best in the new year. It’s been a rough ride but a worthy one…


  18. Anonymous
    Jan 01, 2015

    Even if Jim Ring and his friends do win their lawsuit, it is going to drag on for years through the courts and it will be a long time before Gliebe, Strom & Co. are forced to hand over the keys to the compound and Jim, who will be well into his 60s by then, can take up residence.

    What will be left by then? The mailing list by now probably comprises very few people under about 55 years of age, and I suspect that the days of the $10,000 donations to the NA, the days when William Pierce could simply write an $86,000 check to Morris Dees to make him go away and save the compound, are long gone.

    Harold Covington is William Pierce’s successor whether he wanted to be or not. The NA as a movement is finished. The NF had damned well better come up with something to take its place.


  19. Anonymous
    Jan 01, 2015

    I think Jim Ring could at least maintain the property, and at some point in the future maybe something could be done with it. Gliebe has simply let it rot away and let exposure to the elements render most of the buildings almost uninhabitable, probably deliberately, just as I suspect he deliberately never paid the taxes on the property so as to allow for its confiscation by the county. Looks like Gliebe was a ringer all along. I’d really like to know who has been signing Gliebe’s checks all these years.

    Look, I hold no brief for Jim Ring, largely because I find what he did to Jost and Steffie Turner inexcusable, but that’s water long under the bridge from the Nutty Nineties, and I think we all owe Dr. Pierce’s memory to at least try and save that property in West Virginia from the county tax assessor’s auctioneer’s hammer. I think all of us who remember the part of the Nineties that wasn’t so nutty, like your own Resistance newsletter, Harold, and the really good things that Pierce did, need to do what we can to assist Jim Ring and his NARRG in recovering the compound. Ring isn’t exactly the good guy, he’s the much-better-than-the-other-asshole guy, and in Obama’s America we’re lucky to have even that choice.


  20. Cleavis Nowell
    Jan 02, 2015

    Those who saw the breakup of the two mainline Presbyterian denominations should have a better understanding of where Dr. Pierce got the $300,000. Simply put at least two gentlemen who decided to be like Francis Shaeffer and stay in the old Bircher Society gave Dr.Pierce money and land to create what the Bircher Society could never be.


  21. Harold
    Jan 02, 2015

    @Cleavis Nowell

    Ah, yah, sure, Cleavis. John Birchers gave it to him. Right. That must have been it …


  22. Steve the Elder
    Jan 03, 2015

    Thank you for proving my points.. white nationalism is dead. You people did this..


  23. Andy Donner
    Jan 03, 2015

    I get nostalgia and all that, but really? Assist NAARG in recovering the property? That doesn’t have the slightest thing to do with the one remaining viable option for saving the White race from physical extinction. Dr. Pierce’s legacy (which, not having experienced the magic of, I question on grounds of net effect,) notwithstanding, effort put towards something other than the Northwest Imperative is effort taken away from racial survival.


  24. Harold
    Jan 03, 2015

    @Andy

    It’s a matter of degree. The leadership of White Nationalism in this country since Huey Long died in 1935 have always been largely mediocrities at best, and in many cases downright loons and degenerates. William Dudley Pelley was nutty as a fruitcake, Robert Shelton was a good and courageous man personally but basically an almost illiterate redneck (in the best sense of the term), Gerald L.K. Smith was a powerful speaker and organizer in his day but an ineffective religious kook in his last 20 years or so, etc. To be perfectly blunt, the best we’ve been able to do since 1945 have been DeWest Hooker, George Lincoln Rockwell, and Dr. Pierce, plus some very good writers like Revilo Oliver and some good sergeant-major types, just no generals.

    Pierce had little personal charisma and was basically an academic, but he stood so far head and shoulders over the rest he was a gi-normous fish in a very small and sleazy pond. Plus he was a capable small businessman, very rare indeed among us (I obviously lack that trait myself) not to mention that $300,000 that fell into his lap in 1983, so he was able to put up a front which had the appearance of money, which is what Amurricans have been conditioned to respond to. I can understand the nostalgia.

    In practice it doesn’t matter. The NA is dead; even if Ring can recover the compound he won’t have Pierce’s business and fund-raising acumen, by now all the NA’s major donors are dead or scattered, and he won’t be able to put it back together. The SPLC is trying to stop him from getting hold of it, but I suspect that’s just to assist with their own fund-raising scams.

    We KNOW WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO NOW. The Northwest. The thing is to get our people to DO it. We have the plan, no one else does. Our task right now is to somehow get to “Square One.” I have some ideas on that and will be discussing them on RFN and privately over the next year.


  25. Whiteguy
    Jan 03, 2015

    The 300K ended up being peanuts after the NA bought Resistance Records and several other WP merchandise companies. It is said they were bringing in nearly a million bucks a year at their peak, from a combination of donations, dues, National Vanguard Books and Resistance Records.

    Where did all the millions go?


  26. Anonymous
    Jan 04, 2015

    Why is the Southern Poverty Law Center actively intervening in a private lawsuit over a piece of property?

    Is it because they are afraid the National Alliance will somehow be revived? No, I don’t think so. That ship sailed off into the sunset when Dr. Pierce died without naming a successor and leaving his property to be administered by the law and democracy, which virtually guaranteed it would dissipate and disappear into the pockets of attorneys.

    Not hinting at anything, not suggesting anything, but we all need to observe the behavior of the SPLC very carefully here and draw our own conclusions.


  27. DON
    Jan 07, 2015

    An excellent broadcast as always, but this one seems to shine above some of the others. I am trying my best to get folks to listen to these broadcasts but they almost seem afraid, even when I offer to make a CD for them to listen to! What risk is that? Oh, well, I will keep trying! White people seems so wimpy. Which leads me to Andy and the occasional criticism of him. Yes, Andy comes on strong and hard but WE ARE GOING TO NEED STRONG AND HARD AND TOUGH WHITE GUYS AND GIRLS!!!! Andy sounds like he has backbone and while he may not be a good one for a first time listener to start with, WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE ANDY!!! I love these podcasts and the wonderful and different Aryan voices and opinions and comments. If you rode public transportation like I do with the beaners and wogs and nigs you would cherish EVERY white voice on the podcast! No one is above criticism, it is healthy, but I think I am coming from a different viewpoint as my hometown of Fredericksburg, Virginia is turning into the third world at a rapid pace. I hope to perhaps “come home” one day but it is impossible at the moment for reasons I will not discuss on a public forum so I just bear down, try to get others to listen or read the newsletter and hope for the best! Hail Victory, Comrades!


  28. Commissioner Ferris
    Mar 20, 2015

    My fear is this: just like with Pierce, when HAC shoves off for the great beyond, so too will the NWF. There simply is no one there to take his place.


  29. Harold
    Mar 21, 2015

    @Commissioner Ferris

    You and me both. All I can tell you is I’m working on it.


  30. Latmijbinnen
    Apr 06, 2015

    To me William Pierce is, without a doubt, one of the greatest men that ever lived. Listening to his broadcasts, which I only discovered a decade after his death, has been a truly formative experience for me.

    Nonetheless, he indeed strikes me as having been not the most sociable of people. Your story confirms that impression. But I can’t imagine this having been due to ego or some other sinister motive; he simply wasn’t gregarious, which is unfortunate since, apparently, it sometimes hindered cooperation with other good people.

    But great men are able of loyalty and recognition even of people who for some reason have treated them unfairly on a personal level. See how Hitler was always in full praise of Von Hindenburg, even while the latter disliked him personally in the beginning.

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